Posted by: BibleScienceGuy | December 9, 2015

How Long Was Adam in Eden?

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How long was Adam in the Garden of Eden before he ate the Forbidden Fruit?

Scripture does not explicitly say how long after Creation the Fall occurred. Based on some Scriptural hints, I think it happened soon — within a week to a month.

Jesus seems to hint that the Fall occurred near the Beginning when He described Satan as “a murderer from the beginning” (John 8:44). The serpent’s lie to Eve resulted in death to Adam and Eve and death to all their descendants, certainly qualifying Satan as the murderer Jesus says he was “from the beginning.”

Adam was 130 at Seth’s birth which followed Cain’s murder of Abel. The population had to be fairly large at that time because Cain worried about people killing him as he wandered the earth. No children were born before the Fall, so the Fall must have been close to Creation in order to produce a significant population from multiple generations in at most 130 years. (Genesis 5:3; 4:25; 4:1-15)

A more particular indication of how long Adam was in Eden may be deduced from Eve’s timeline. Eve was the first wife and mother, created to be Adam’s companion and helper and to bear his children. Her first child Cain was conceived after expulsion from Eden (Genesis 4:1). Before the Fall, the human reproductive system would be working perfectly, and Adam and Eve would be in complete harmony. God had commanded them to be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth (Genesis 1:28). Prior to the Fall, they would have been obedient to this first command from Yahweh. Their physically perfect bodies could have conceived in the first reproductive cycle.

Why didn’t Eve conceive in the Garden of Eden? I think it was because Adam and Eve must not have stayed in Eden long enough to reach the fertile portion of a reproductive cycle. Provided the cycle was the same length before the Fall as after the Fall, they were probably expelled from Eden within two weeks, at most a month, after Creation. They may have only been in the Garden of Eden for a few days.

Satan, who tempted Eve to sin, must have rebelled and fallen from his state of perfection after Yahweh pronounced all of Creation “very good” on Day Six (Genesis 1:31) and before Adam’s fall not long thereafter.

Questions to Ponder
  1. How long would you have lasted in Eden before succumbing to Satan’s temptation to eat the Forbidden Fruit?
  2. What lie against God’s truth is Satan dangling before you today?
  3. Share your thoughts on these questions in the comments below. It could encourage or help another reader.

Soli Deo Gloria.

This is the eleventh of a series of weekly blog articles on Adam.
Read the prequels:
1. Was Adam in the Garden of Eden?
2. Did Moses Believe in Adam?
3. Did Jesus Believe in Adam?
4,Did Paul Believe in Adam?
5.Does Belief in Adam Matter?
6.Adam and Puppies
7.Why Did Adam Sin?
8.What Should Adam Have Done?
9.What Did Adam Cause?
10.What Was Adam’s Forbidden Fruit?

Read the sequels:
12. Was Adam’s Garden of Eden Real?
13. Christmas & Adam
(with videos)
14. Where Was Adam’s Garden of Eden?
15. Did Adam Wear Clothes in Eden?
16. Was Adam Backward or Brilliant?
(with video)
17. Who Was Mrs. Adam?
18. Adam’s Dream Girl
19. Adam’s Prolific Princess
20. Adam’s Problematic Princess
21. How Many Children Did Adam Have?
22. Whom Did Adam’s Sons Marry?
23. Did Adam Ride a Unicorn?
24. How Long Did Adam Live?
25. Did Adam Swat Mosquitoes in Eden?
26. Did Adam’s Garden Have a Talking Snake?
27. Why Should Adam’s Sin Affect Me?
28. Did Roses Have Thorns in Adam’s Garden?
29. Adam the Image-Bearer & Harambe the Gorilla
30. Did Adam Ever Return to Eden?
31. What Was Adam’s Tree of Life?
32. Will Adam Be in Heaven?
33. Did Adam See the Big Dipper?
34. Did Adam Know Earth Is Round?
35. Did Jesus Say When Adam Was Created?
36. Did Adam See Dinosaurs?
37. Did Adam Like Steak?
38. Could Adam Read & Write?
39. Did God Use Evolution to Make Adam?
40. Adam & the Olympics
41. Adam and the Gospel
42. Adam and the Genesis Road

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©William T. Pelletier, Ph.D.
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(Jude 1:3; 2 Cor 10:5; Phil 1:16)
Wednesday December 9, 2015 A.D.

The Lord God commanded the man, saying, “From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.”
Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, “Indeed, has God said, ‘You shall not eat from any tree of the garden’?” The woman said to the serpent, “From the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat; but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.’” The serpent said to the woman, “You surely will not die! For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.
(Genesis 2:16; 3:1-6)

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  1. I think you are right. The fall occurred before Eve conceived, so it would have been less than a month after Creation. I also think Satan’s fall occurred at the same time, i.e., after he put his rebellious thoughts into action in deceiving Eve. Prior to that, Satan was part of God’s “very good” creation.

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    • I have also pondered the idea that the Bible may be telling us that the “dragon” (the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, Revelation 20:2), outwardly broke with God in his betrayal in the garden.

      That this “(anointed) Guardian Cherub (who covers)” is said to have been “in Eden, the garden of God,” (Ezekiel 28:11-19), lends itself to this idea, though the events in Ezekiel are couched in anachronistic and metaphoric language speaking of Satan’s existence from beginning to end (while in Ezekiel’s time it seems Satan is indwelling the human King of Tyre first addressed in the passage).

      Had Satan as an angelic being been commissioned to guard Adam and Eve concerning the forbidden tree? As a “Guardian Angel” was he to remind them what God had said about the tree? His first words were “Has God not said…” It’s a thought.

      I’m also intrigued by the metaphors serpent and dragon. We do know that demons can inhabit animals as well as humans (e.g. they begged Jesus to send them into a herd of pigs, Matthew 30-31).

      In using the metaphors serpent and dragon for Satan, and telling us that “the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field that the LORD God had made” Genesis 3:1, God is leading us to understand that the serpent tempting Eve is Satan. Yet, we know that Satan is NOT a “serpent” though it seems Eve is interacting with what appeared to her to be another creature.

      Did the serpent literally “speak”? Perhaps not as angels (both God’s “messengers” AND “the fallen ones”) still have the ability to communicate with humans on a spiritual thought plane, even today to warn us OR tempt us without a spoken word.

      It also says that Eve “saw that the tree was good for food” (G 3:6). This suggests to me that she first witnessed the creature eating the fruit – particularly because it is followed by, “AND that it was a delight to the eyes.”

      Returning to the metaphors serpent and dragon, this is off the wall but it would be logical to think perhaps the animal called a serpent that Satan used was a dinosaur, rather than in current culture pictured as a “snake” because of the curse Satan received.

      What’s the logic? ““Because you have done this, Cursed are you more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you will go, And dust you will eat All the days of your life!”

      “Because you have done this”, also hints at Satan’s fall being associated with the fall of man!

      And although crawling on his belly is again metaphoric concerning Satan as a spiritual being, it is representative that he, a majestic heavenly angelic being, would NOW be confined to earth (eating dust) and considered lower than earth’s created beasts in God’s eyes.

      And another interesting fact is that the most obvious difference between ALL dragons large and small (now known as dinosaurs) and today’s reptiles is that ALL dinosaurs’ legs (whether two or four-legged) carried them upright like ALL other land animals (think ostrich and horse, et al).

      So as an empirical reminder of this important history and a warning of our perpetual enemy, ALL reptiles have become belly draggers, their legs come out sideways, if they have them at all!

      Just saying… (she smiles)

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      • Hi Kelly! You present some excellent insights, and your thinking on this is very plausible. However, we must always be careful not to “add” to God’s Word with our speculations when the meaning is not perfectly clear. That said, it is permissible to make some assumptions so long as they are solidly based in Scripture. Even so, we must be careful not to make our speculations and assumptions a matter of dogma.

        Both the passage in Ezekiel 28:11-19 as well as the one in Isaiah 14:12-14 have a dual meaning. In Isaiah, God addresses the king of Babylon, and in Ezekiel, He addresses the king of Tyre (Tyrus). Both of these are evil rulers with which God will deal, but in both passages the underlying meaning is descriptive of Satan. (Satan, by the way, is his title – “Accuser.” His name is given by Isaiah as “Lucifer” meaning “light bearer” or “morning star” — see 2 Corinthians 11:14). In either case, I do not believe these earthly kings were necessarily “possessed” by Satan, but rather they were “controlled” by Satan. This is just my opinion, but I don’t believe Satan himself possesses anyone; I think he leaves that up to his minions. Neither Satan nor his angels are omnipresent like God, so he must be free to go “to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it” (Job 1:7). If he were to take possession of someone, that would confine him to that body and thus restrict his movements. However, during the Tribulation, I believe he will take possession of the Antichrist, but that is a topic for another time. In any case, in these two passages, the Holy Spirit gives us insight into, and a description of, the character of Satan.

        The Bible only names three angels: Lucifer, Michael and Gabriel. These are archangels – high ranking angels. Each, I’m guessing, commands one third of the heavenly hosts. This I infer from what is said in Revelation 12:4. As you rightly point out, Satan is metaphorically referred to as “the dragon.” Although both of these are reptiles, that does not necessarily mean that the “serpent” in the Garden was a dragon (some sort of dinosaur). The serpent (Hebrew nâchâsh) was clearly a snake. Whether Satan took possession of a snake or whether he transformed himself into a snake is not made clear in Scripture. Suffice it to say that Satan was the snake, and the snake was Satan. It is interesting to note that Eve seemed perfectly at ease conversing with him in that form. Dr. Michael S. Heiser, author of The unseen Realm: Recovering the Supernatural Worldview of the Bible, suggests that Eden was God’s garden where He met with His heavenly counsel which included Adam and Eve, His human representatives. If that were the case, then Eve would have been familiar with Lucifer, and therefore not at all shocked by him. Why he decided to come in the form of a snake I cannot tell, but the Bible clearly says he was a snake. The serpent could also have been a dinosaur that walked upon at least two legs, otherwise the curse (“thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life” [Genesis 3:14]) would not make sense. This would also lend credence to the idea that Satan took possession of the creature, therefore the creature itself was cursed, similar to the whole earth being cursed on account of Adam’s sin.

        I do not see any reason to conclude that Eve saw the Serpent eating of the fruit. This is pure speculation without scriptural support. However, look at the pattern of her fall (Genesis 3:6): (1) she saw it was good for food (2) it was pleasant to the eyes, and (3) a tree to be desired to make one wise. Compare that with 1 John 2:16: (1) the lust of the flesh, (2) the lust of the eyes, and (3) the pride of life.

        We see that nothing much has changed since the beginning of time. James describes the process of sin: “But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death” (James 1:14-15). The pattern fits both man and angels. Eve may have thought all of those things in her mind, but she did not sin until she acted upon those lusts – Satan likewise. In his pride, as described by Isaiah, he may have felt jealous of the human couple for the “dominion” bestowed on them by the Creator (Genesis 1:26). In his jealousy, he concocted this plan for their fall, but it was not sin until he followed through with his plan. I write more about this in my article “Why Satan?”

        I hope this helps, and I hope Bill, The Bible-Science Guy, doesn’t mind me taking up so much space on his blog. 😉

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        • Ernesto, thanks for these insights!

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        • Ernesto, bless you for the philanthropic sharing of your gifts! You have invested much thought into your response to me so in respect and appreciation, I will respond in kind. I have no objection to following you in a public dialog.

          I appreciate your kind remark to me, saying “…your thinking on this is plausible”. However several topics were encompassed so I’m not certain which part/s you thought plausible. I did veer from my key inquiry into you suggesting that Satan’s fall coincided with that of Adam and Eve’s which had caught my interest. I had never heard this idea taught, though I did feel as though this was the message of the biblical text.

          Concerning this and Satan perhaps utilizing a dinosaur in his encounter with Eve, I appreciate your admonishment not to add speculation to God’s Word. On this we certainly agree which is why I have sought your deeper insight and wisdom.

          I’m only interested in the revealed TRUTH of God’s Word. I have a hungry heart for ALL God has given us and a mind that attempts to connect the dots and analyze deeply.

          I don’t however imagine I possess special gifts or infallible discernment, nor have I a scholarly or biblical education. So trust me, I would never equate my contemplations with the clear Word of God, nor attempt to pass them off as orthodoxy!

          You’ve seemed to reason through my suppositions but also to say the Hebrew word “nâchâsh” definitely means “snake” and that the serpent in the garden was definitely a “snake”.

          I’m no Hebrew scholar, so IS the term nâchâsh used to describe Leviathan? (A metaphor also used for Satan.) If so, Leviathan is not what we would consider or translate as “snake”.

          Isaiah 27:1 “in that day the LORD will punish LEVIATHAN THE FLEEING SERPENT, with His fierce and great and mighty sword, even LEVIATHAN THE TWISTED SERPENT; And He will kill the DRAGON who lives in the sea.”

          And Leviathan seems to have had legs and been able to move on land as well as in the sea: Job 41:12-15 “I will not keep silence concerning his LIMBS, or his mighty strength, or his orderly frame. “Who can strip off his outer armor? Who can come within his double mail? “Who can open the doors of his face? Around his teeth there is terror…”

          IF the word “serpent” in Isaiah 27 is nâchâsh, might the jury still be out concerning a direct translation of nâchâsh into the English interpretive “snake”?

          It seems likely to me that the Hebrew word may have been translated as “snake” due to unfamiliar translators having no clear equivalent to nâchâsh, and so in the Genesis account they envisioned the creature as described under God’s curse – a snake crawling on its belly and thus translated it.

          But this doesn’t make complete sense for the same reasons that you’ve articulated. How would it be a “curse” if the animal were already a belly-crawler?

          I’ve also found the Hebrew word nâchâsh translated as serpent and snake linked with “hissing” and “divination” which seem somewhat disconnected with one another. And even stranger, “ha nâchâsh” is associated with “the shining one” (which brings to mind Lucifer as you mentioned), so I’m confused. Would you share more of what you know about the word nâchâsh, and why it is translated as “snake” in English?

          I did say that my thoughts on Satan using a dinosaur in Eden were “off the wall” since I’ve never heard or read of this being suggested by anyone.

          And now I regret going down the dinosaur “rabbit hole” in our interchange because what I really wanted to hear from you was why you had come to your stated conclusion on Satan’s fall coinciding with mankind’s – and whether you know of other scholars who have shared this perspective?

          Thank you in advance for any consideration Sir, and any input Dr. Pelletier or others might share as well.

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        • Thanks for your thoughts, Kelly. I appreciate your reading and commenting.

          I do not think Satan’s fall into sin happened at the same time as mankind’s fall. Satan’s denying and contradicting what God said about eating the forbidden fruit causing death before Eve took the fruit shows that he was already in sin and rebelling against God before Adam ate (Genesis 3:1-6). We don’t know when Satan fell or how long he fell before Adam fell. It was sometime after the end of Day Six when God pronounced everything that He had created “very good” and before Adam’s fall.

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  2. I’m wondering how long would Adam have been in the garden. In Genesis 2:20 Adam names all the animals. Depending on how many species there were it might take a while. Can anything be known on how much longer Adam was in Eden than Eve?

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    • Thanks for reading and commenting.
      Adam named the animals on Day Six of Creation Week shortly after he was created and shortly before Eve was created (Genesis 2:18-22). Both Adam and Eve were created on Day Six of Creation Week (Genesis 1:26-27). So Adam was in Eden for only a few hours (less than a day) prior to Eve’s creation.

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      • OK that makes sense. Thank you for explaining that.

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  3. I think Adam was whole, complete, satisfied and happy in the garden. It was God (not Adam) who said “It isn’t good for man to be alone.” I think it wasn’t good because God is Triune. He is a God of relationship. If Adam was to be in God’s Image, Adam too had to be in relationship. When Adam lost his rib & gained a wife, he was no longer complete / whole unto himself. He “needed” an appropriate helpmate in order to become “one.” I also believe raging hormones were not an issue in their perfect environment and since there was no death, there was no rush to be fruitful. So, I believe the two of them were in the garden for about 100 years learning about and enjoying God’s creation, each other and the God who walked in the garden in the cool of the day.

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    • Thanks for reading and commenting. I disagree with you on Adam and Eve being “in the garden for about 100 years” for the reasons I discussed above in the article.

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  4. Kelly, I am not a Hebrew scholar by any stretch of the imagination, so I cannot give you every nuance of the language. However, Leviathan is a transliteration, not a translation, of the Hebrew. Therefore, it is what it is. Whatever it was, it was big and dreadful. Strong’s Dictionary defines it as a “wreathed animal, that is, a serpent” but when one reads the description in Scripture, that is obviously inaccurate; Dr. Strong didn’t know what it was either. Isaiah (27:1) uses metaphoric language to describe Leviathan as a serpent (nâchâsh), referring to Satan. You can read a better description here: http://www.icr.org/bible/Isaiah/27:1/. I hope that helps.

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